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First off, How to choice iContact email software package? Looking forward for any response. Another question... I'm trying to use em spaces for indentation in a poem. If it doesn't work, I'll just surround indented lines with spans and give them margin-left: 2em;, etc., but I'm at a loss to explain the behavior I'm seeing. Here's the code..

Hmm. It's interpreting the em space entities in this post. But you can see where they are, and if you're using IE you should be able to see the problematic behavior. I'm not going to bother to change all the ampersands to & so it doesn't do that..

There's currently no style information attached to the stanza class or globally to p (only to p.prose, etc.)..

The problem is that IE renders ugly little boxes instead of em spaces, *except* on the line.

, and if I remove the em dash entity at the end of that line, just before the br tag, it does show the ugly little boxes. If I put, for example, a regular space after the three em spaces, it renders fine, but of course the space takes up additional horizontal space..

I can easily work around this, either by not using the em spaces or by adding extra spaces until IE is happy, but I'd like to know what's causing this problem!..

Comments (9)

I would like to know the answer too. Anyone here know what is the right answer to your question. I'll do some research and get back to you if I got an good answer. You should email the people at iContact as they probably can help you..

Comment #1

Because if the style settings were done with a class... all the content of the whole web iContact site could be changed with the swift change of one line of code...

Comment #2

But the text will be rendered like one mass paragraph with styles disabled..

The indent can be hard coded in, and everything else (color, position, font size, background color, border, ect.) can be set with CSS...

Comment #3

No it wont as the breaks are still intact...

Comment #4

So, we can have lots of superfluous markup, to what advantage? Semantically speaking, it seems reasonable use.

<pre></pre>.

Here...

Comment #5

We will have to beg to differ then. I consider the <p>'s to be superfluous..

The advantage will be if the web master has a great deal of poems to publish online... and may want to change some basic layout at a later point... every file will not need changing. Only the CSS doc...

Comment #6

I am just trying to figure out what "em spaces" are???.

&amp;#8195;.

Why are you using that??? just use &amp;nbsp; instead..

Comment #7

I was considering using the em spaces because their size is such that each represents one level of indent, and because the indents, arguably a textual rather than a presentational element, would thus have the advantage of being *part of the text* rather than produced by stylesheets. My backup plan was already the good ol' span, which entimp suggested, and it looks like I'll probably be going with that (though I'll keep each stanza as a p, since it really is a "paragraph" of poetry.) That's pretty much the common way of doing it on PGDP anywayI just thought I'd be creative and try something potentially better. Thanks for all the suggestions. I'd still like to know why the em spaces were behaving so oddly, though...

Comment #8

Because then the book of poetry would be about half non-breaking space entities. Trust me, there are a lot of indented lines...

Comment #9

Half of non brekaing spaces or half of em spaces, I see no difference. you could always you blockquote too. and there is a css attribute that will endent. let me find it..

Http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/text.h...dentation-prop..

Comment #10


This question was taken from a support group/message board and re-posted here so others can learn from it.